Whirlie rumble

ghs04.jpgghs03.jpgghs02.jpgghs01.jpgUpdate: By all accounts, save for one, yesterday’s fracus was an old-fashioned rumble between kids from two neighborhoods and was not ‘gang related’.  However, nearly 24 hrs after the incident, WFMY’s headline still reads, irresponsibly,: “Two Students Charged in Grimsley Gang Fight“. 


Big fight at Grimsley High School this morning.  The school’s automated notification system rang our house around 9:30a about the time that GHS junior daughter Josie was able to get out of her locked classroom and snap a few aftermath photos in her role as yearbook photographer.

Not exactly the kind of memories I like for my children to be making at school.

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  1. Posted December 14, 2007 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Interesting. The article at digtriad (even with its broken links and trouble playing in FFox) claims it’s a “gang” fight. The N&R article doesn’t mention gangs, but mentions neighborhoods. Assuming these terms are not identical, does Josie know which it is?

  2. Whirlie Alum
    Posted December 14, 2007 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    If you want truly integrated schools, this is the kind of crap you get. It’s the same crap you get in the real world. Kids who have nothing to loose by breaking the rules at school are no different that adults who have nothing to loose by breaking the law in the real world. What I have a problem with is when someone like Dena Hayes tells me that the reason the trouble-making kids are showing out is because society and the school system don’t give them something they need. We can’t give them enough Dena!

  3. Posted December 14, 2007 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    That was an unfortunate term they used and really quite false from all other reports (including my living room full of GHS kids who are watching APP whup up on Delaware even as we speak).

    It was, as the N&R reports, a rumble between Cumberland Courts (which is near us) and Hampton Homes neighborhoods.

    WFMY got their headline completely wrong. Probably playing to the more base of our sensibilities.

    It was a neighborhood rumble, ala West Side Story (but most involved were from the east side).

  4. Posted December 15, 2007 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    Hey Alum, Deena Hayes is a nobody and has zero credibility. And I plan on standing up for my beliefs and for the children of this county…all children. When I’m elected next year, she will have met her match.

  5. Posted December 15, 2007 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    I think perhaps we’ve made some progress. According to the N&R it was a “fist fight.” Apparently no guns or knives were involved. In this day and age, that’s a positive step.

  6. Gatecity Keeper
    Posted December 15, 2007 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    I believe Westside Story was about 2 gangs…

    The Sharks & The Jets

    Face the facts, all the whitewash in the world will not fix the problem.

  7. Nick
    Posted December 15, 2007 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Whirlie alum, not sure what you mean by “If you want truly integrated schools, this is the kind of crap you get.” We see school violence all around the country and from kids of all races and backgrounds…remember recent school shootings, mall shootings etc…

  8. Whirlie Alum
    Posted December 16, 2007 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Nick, I think you just answered your own question. The real world is integrated and this is the kind of crap we see and read about everyday with ever increasing frequency. In the schools that are representative of real world populations, you see the real world crap! Again, the thing that pisses me off the most is when folks like Deena Hayes try to blame the crap on the folks with the most not sharing the resources. You have to work for what you get in the real world Deena!

  9. Posted December 16, 2007 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    I’m with you Whilrile Alum, If only our schools where still all black and all white there wouldn’t be any problems. Your evaluation of the situation is dead on! Go Grimsley Whities!

  10. Recent_Whirlie Alum
    Posted December 16, 2007 at 11:21 pm | Permalink

    The problem does not lie in the fact that schools are integrated. As a graduate of 2007, I must say it is quite evident thatat there is segregation within this ‘integrated’. There is stll a lot of racism, and there definitley is a big advantage towards white students in this school system today. Parents, teachers and administrators won’t acknowledge the problem…..ask a student and they’ll be quick to tell you of the racial tension. The problem does not lie in re-segregating, it lies in the communication gap between whites and blacks. It is evidnt to me that one cannot understand the other , and to place the blame solely on these kids whose ‘fault’ it is, is wrong, we should place the blame on those who do not wish to bridge this gap. Go to the classes at Grimsley , and see for your self that the blacks are with blacks and the whites are with whites. ( In most cases)Integration has not fully occurred and when it does, this world will be a better place. Until then, quit placing blame on any one side.

  11. Recent_Whirlie Alum
    Posted December 16, 2007 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    sorry for the typos, its hard to see when you have a white background on the typing ppad

  12. Posted December 17, 2007 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    Recent Alum…thank you for sharing this with us. This is very significant because Deena Hayes is always crying racism at Board meetings, yet never provides specifics. Please contact me on erik@hueyforguilfordschoolboard.org because I really want to learn more.

  13. Posted December 17, 2007 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Well not being there I can’t say but there are gangs and then there are gangs… These neighborhood gangs may not be Bloods, Crips or MS-13 but many area neighborhood gangs are just as dangerous and only differ in the fact that their gangs are local in nature. One needs also remember 2 things: 1. Bloods, Crips and MS-13 were at one time neighborhood gangs and 2. Many of these local neighborhood gangs only form as a means to fight back against the already established gangs.

    The reason for no guns and knives: Metal detectors.

    Take it from one who has been a gang member right here in GReensboro and don’t try to sweep it under the rug as the N&R has spent the last 30+ years doing.

  14. Posted December 17, 2007 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    Also Recent_Whirlie Alum makes some excellent points. The real blame lies at the feet of the Greensboro City Council, Guilford County Commissioners, a few corrupt police officers and the Guilford County School Board.

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