Who is being transparent?

It might not make one iota of difference, but one thing that I am thoroughly convinced of regarding this whole mess – which is a reversal caused by my meeting with Johnson yesterday – is this:  The flap caused by the city’s failure to fulfill the N&R’s document request was not caused by either intransigence or incompetence” on the part of the City Manager’s office.  It was caused by confusion.  Truth is, the wording of the document request does not match the document that surfaced on Thursday.

Scott Sanders’ attorney Seth Cohen informed the wording for the N&R’s request in this article when he asserted that the memo was “contained in the original ‘black book’“.  First question is why would such a memo be “contained” in a line-up book?  (Which it wasn’t, it was in a file at Internal Affairs… remember, words are important) But that’s not my larger point.

One would have to assume that Cohen was in possession of the memo and other requested items because he offered to show them all to Council.  It is because he had them that he knew to tell the N&R what to request from the City.  Did Cohen intentionally mislead the N&R or did the reporter write it down wrong?

Also, does anyone even care how Cohen might have come into possession of such highly sensitive material in the first place? (Answered… I’m a dumbass)

Moreover, if everyone is so interested in complete transparency like they say they are, why doesn’t Cohen and other outlets just go ahead and give everything they have to the media so we can really try this thing – the whole thing – in the court of public opinion.  My guess is that it is just more fun to embarrass the City and the N&R a little at a time than to completely embarrass one’s client all at once.

Side note: I freely admit I am carrying Mitch Johnson’s water here.  So let’s get past that and deal with the content.

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  1. Ben Holder
    Posted February 10, 2008 at 8:12 pm | Permalink


    e mail me..we need to chat

  2. Ben Holder
    Posted February 10, 2008 at 8:13 pm | Permalink
  3. Posted February 10, 2008 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    “I have never understood those who have tried to shift the burden of proof to Wray- he was the one who got fired and the real answers as to why that happened should come from those who fired him. That has not happened in any coherent or credible way.”

    The burden of proof is not, nor should it have ever been David Wray’s to carry.

    Look at the way this started……with the howls of indignation and cries for “justice” over “rampant racism”, before all the facts were known, and in spite of those of us in the beginning who wanted to find out more. Then the meme was carefully shifted to “Wray lied” and “Wray the Bad Employee” as conditions required the story to be played.

    Now, some of those same howlers ask us to give the same consideration to Johnson they have NEVER been willing to give Wray.


    It doesn’t work that way anymore.

    Time’s up.

  4. Ben Holder
    Posted February 11, 2008 at 7:43 am | Permalink


    where did ya go? The best part about his is Mitch’s last defender, Ed Cone, is one of the least informed about the entire story. No comment about Timmy’s denial either huh? Ed, Ed, Ed, maybe you just stick to linkin’ and stinkin’ I’ll do the thinkn’

  5. Spag
    Posted February 11, 2008 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    Ben, Ed never takes a stand or does any lifting. He let’s his links do that and pretends those ideas are his when the prove true, and denies they reflected his views when they don’t.

    His only concern is to never be wrong which is why he rarely offers his own insight into anything besides stating the obvious.

    On the Wray thing, he is too busy linking back to previous columns he wrote on the subject than to actually engage in any of these discussions or ask any of the tough questions.

    With Ed, it’s always about Ed.

  6. Spag
    Posted February 11, 2008 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Sorry for the numerous grammatical errors in that last post.

  7. Posted February 11, 2008 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    Did you read his column this week? New ideas, not about Ed.

  8. Ben Holder
    Posted February 11, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Ed is a nice enough guy. But, he is not a reporter and will defend the Government over citizen journalism. He also no nothing about the Wray Fray. In my opinion, he simply should get out of the way.

  9. Ben Holder
    Posted February 11, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Knows nothing..sorry..I am out…gotta roll.

  10. Spag
    Posted February 11, 2008 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Roch, I was referring to his blog, not his newspaper columns.

    Ed is an okay guy and a good conversationalist in person, but he leaves the impression with a lot of people that its all about him, and I stand by my view that he doesn’t take strong stands on anything and speaks through the columns he links to so he can always hedge his bets on the outcome of any given issue.

    Anyway, this isn’t about Ed, just my two cents in response to Ben’s comment.

  11. Posted February 11, 2008 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Boy, check out of a thread for a little while and you miss a lot.

    Not clear to me what I did or didn’t do, but I’m sure it’s all true.

    Carry on.

  12. Spag
    Posted February 11, 2008 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Nothing I haven’t said to you before Ed. We all have a way of doing things that some will criticize, but it ain’t personal.

    I know, my opinion is simply my imagination.

  13. Posted February 11, 2008 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Dogs bark, caravan passes…just trying to figure out what if anything I was supposed to do, or not do, in the context of this thread.

  14. Ben Holder
    Posted February 11, 2008 at 6:24 pm | Permalink


    You aint a caravan. You are a dog

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